Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:04 PDT From: xxltony@crash.cts.com (Tony Lindsey) Subject: Mac*Chat#081/12-Jul-95 Mac*Chat#081/12-Jul-95 ====================== Welcome to Mac*Chat, the free, weekly electronic newsletter biased toward Mac users who are production-oriented professionals. Other Mac users may find many, many items of interest as well. I'd enjoy hearing your feedback and suggestions. Unfortunately, due to the massive numbers of messages I get every day, I can't guarantee a personal reply. Tony Lindsey, . http://www.cts.com/browse/xxltony See the end of this file for legalisms and info on how to subscribe. Any [comments in brackets] are by Tony Lindsey. Topics: Highlights Of This Issue It's Great To Be Back! Advertising In Mac*Chat - Tell Me Your Views Inexpensive MO Disk Update So, How's "Money On The Internet" Doing? Web Sites Of Note Searching & Indexing Publish & Subscribe Tips Eudora 2.1's Filtering Capability Legalisms Free Subscriptions To This Newsletter Highlights Of This Issue ------------------------ I talk about my vacation, I mention a free program with wide use and questionable morals, I open the discussion about advertising in Mac*Chat, we track down inexpensive magneto-optical disks, I ask about online cash-transfer methods, I pass along a few nice Mac-oriented Web sites, one reader explains why the next Mac operating system will make On Location obsolete, we cover Publish & Subscribe Tips to the point of overkill, and Eudora 2.1's filtering capabilities are explained. It's Great To Be Back! ---------------------- By Tony Lindsey I've had very, very pleasant vacation, yet I've missed corresponding with all of my wonderful friends in Mac*ChatLand. Palm Springs was very nice, though 116 degrees Fahrenheit (46.6 Celsius) was a bit much, even for a desert boy like me. I also enjoyed a very nice pool party for July 4th. The rest of the time I spent working on our house - digging up stumps, training our new Border Collie, and working on my body-shape. In the last three years, I've intentionally gone from a 47-inch waist down to a 36. Most of that change has been in the last year, and many of my long-term friends don't recognize me at first! I'll have to post some new images soon on the Web page. I've spent a lot of time thinking about Mac*Chat and the directions I'd like to take it. Expect to see some risks taken as time goes by - I'm still working on the details, and will make announcements as things develop. I've also begun to correspond with a loose affiliation of my content-provider peers. Mac*Chat is currently #11 of all electronic newsletters on earth, and I find I'm in need of friendly advice at times. So - I've been out of the loop - Somebody send me some good gossip! I want to know all about the BEST new goodies, techniques, tips or locations. Advertising In Mac*Chat - Tell Me Your Views -------------------------------------------- By Tony Lindsey I'm going through a period of internal debate, and I need your feedback. Back in October, when I started getting massive amounts of new Mac*Chat subscribers through my new-found ability to post on the comp.sys.mac.digest newsgroup, I had the stubborn idea that I would never, ever sully my newsletter with advertising. I justified it with the idea that I wanted to write editorials that would scorn certain products and bless others. I saw Mac*Chat as an opinion page, and back then, each issue was nearly 100% written by me. That's no longer the case. Mac*Chat is evolving nearly every week. Looking at NewtNews and TidBITs (both of which are sponsored by advertisers), I don't see any loss of editorial vision and integrity. If anything, both publications are booming along nicely with no negative press at ALL. So - Am I tilting at windmills when I declare that I can't allow advertising in my territory? I can think of several fine businesses that I would have no qualms about adding to Mac*Chat, provided that we reach an understanding of sorts. What should those understandings be? I'd like your ideas on how everybody can win here. - I want to ship Mac*Chats that can be trusted. I want people to know EXACTLY what they are getting (or not getting). There are enough hidden agendas on the Internet, and I don't want to be a part of that. - I'd like to be able to afford to provide new ways for my readers to get value from Mac*Chat, such as a searchable index and many more new features as they come out. Maybe even a Web server of my very own. - I want to keep shipping fresh new Mac*Chat's every week (when I'm not on vacation), with extra value and no concomitant editor-burnout. - I want to be able to start paying staff, like other large-subscriber e-magazines. So far, all my help has been volunteer-based, but Mac*Chat has reached a growth-point that is making this difficult. - I'd like the freedom to try out even more changes in the newsletter. I'm aware of some radically-new publishing options will open up in the next year or so, and I'd like to afford to try them. I think the main change in the newsletter is that it has gone from being a "podium for Tony's opinions" to a "magazine" format. I get articles, opinions and questions from the world. I pick the ones that will best-serve the readers according to my own editorial bias. I write new material, and then I make sure it all fits within the self-imposed size constraints. Advertisers (carefully chosen) can help the process, if we do it right. ----- Mac*Chat, TidBITs and NewtNews (just to name a tiny fraction of the e-magazines out there) are not a passing fancy. The global public is embracing our newsletters. Mac*Chat's subscribership goes up-up-up every single week. Collectively, we are inventing a new forum for special-interest communications, and our success is not accidental. There are many, many new e-magazines starting up. Many of them are mentioned at http://www.tile.net/tile/listserv/index.html I'm certain there will be a shakeout at some point. I'm willing to adapt if it means that Mac*Chat can be one of the long-term successes. Inexpensive MO Disk Update -------------------------- By Tony Lindsey A few issues ago, we mentioned that Memory Merchants sells boxes of ten 230-megabyte Kyocera-brand magneto-optical disks for US$219.90 (a REALLY good deal). These have a lifetime warranty. Somehow we neglected to mention the contact information: Memory Merchants, 1-800-799-3475/415-594-9173. So, How's "Money On The Internet" Doing? ---------------------------------------- By Tony Lindsey There is a frantic rush going on at the moment. People affiliated with Visa & Mastercard, Microsoft, and many, many others are frantically setting up methods to safely transfer funds over the Internet. So far, most of them are experimental, but some are further along than others. I'd like to hear from folks who have a direct, user's-level experience with ecash, First Virtual, DigiCash, etc. Send me a few paragraphs telling me whether we've arrived yet - I want to know about usefulness, safety, and the human factor. No flackery, please! Web Sites Of Note ----------------- I have been getting a lot of these alerts, and I thought I'd gather them together for one issue. I haven't By "Joseph O. Holmes" <72241.731@compuserve.com> My apologies for the canned text! The Mac Street Price Index (MSPI) is a comprehensive listing on the World Wide Web of the lowest advertised prices on new Apple-brand hardware. We update the MSPI every two weeks, and more often when major price changes occur or new hardware is released. The advertised prices for Apple's new Power Macintosh 9500 and color LaserWriters, for example, were available on our World Wide Web site within hours of the products' official roll out at PC Expo. We can be accessed at http://www.interport.net/~joholmes/street_price.html. The Mac Street Price Index shows the lowest advertised selling prices on all currently-offered Macintosh desktop and PowerBook CPUs, as well as Apple-brand monitors, keyboards, and printers, drawn from three sources: authorized walk-in dealers, authorized national mail-order catalogs such as MacWarehouse, and non-authorized "gray market" sellers. In addition to listing prices, we also notes recent trends and changes in prices and product availability. The MSPI is a reference tool, however, so we do not list any dealers or contact information. [I became suspicious and asked him what his "angle" was - He told me he started doing it because it suited him. He doesn't make any money off of it, though I think he ought to.] --------- By rhook@iccu6.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au (Robert Hook) G'day! What is shaping up to be THE Mac oriented web site is under construction at: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~pkortge/mac/mum.html (By the way 'mum' is Mac Users Mecca - not Peter Kortge's Mother!) An initiative by Queensland, Australia's, prime Apple Users Group - Apple Q Inc. - in collaboration with one of Australia's largest ISPs has led to the creation of Mac Users Mecca. The intention of Oz-Email and Apple Q is to make this site the first place to the visit for any Mac or Apple users. The creators of the site, Peter Kortge and Dale Rodgie, are actively searching out and evaluating every Mac or Apple site available, and organising them under this site with an intuitive and colorful layout. It lists Name, Address, Phone & Fax Numbers etc - (and Internet address if available) for every Macintosh Dealer in Australia (soon to include all South Pacific Resellers as well), most large Australian Hardware, Software & Distribution companies and all known Australian Macintosh User Groups (as well as major US ones and some from other countries). Also included are Mac related WWW sites worldwide, most Macintosh ftp sites worldwide, Mac Internet Software descriptions / locations, Mac mailing lists and Mac Newsgroups etc etc. Searching & Indexing -------------------- By Lee Fyock In the 6/20 MacChat, you have an article on "ON Location." I used to use it quite a bit, and agree with everything that Jim Bonner said. However, he didn't mention that ON Technology hasn't upgraded ON Location in at least three years, and that they have no intention of doing so. Also, Copland will include indexing and very fast searches, much like ON Location, but better in some ways. Part of the new Copland Finder interface will be a much-enhanced Find utility. The Find will be built into the Finder, rather than being a separate application as it is in 7.5, so that the "found" files will be in regular Finder windows. A "find set" is a set of criteria for performing a search, such as "find all files on my boot disk that have the word 'native' in the title". These find sets can be saved, so that commonly-performed searches can be re-run with just a double-click. Doing so brings up the "viewer" for the find set, which displays the result of the search. Viewers are completely live, so that creating a new file with "native" in the name would cause the viewer to add that file within seconds to the list of found files. One use for a viewer that was demonstrated at the '95 World Wide Developer's Conference was to make a backup viewer that searched for "all files modified after 6/21". Once the search had completed, the user or a script would copy the results to a backup floppy or drive. System 7.5's Find File utility has the ability to search for text in the contents of files, if the user option-clicks on the criteria popup menu. Copland's find goes one better by pre-indexing the contents of files, a la ON Location. This makes searches for text inside of documents extremely fast, since only an index is searched, not the actual documents themselves. Searches are performed very quickly in general, since the Copland file manager is native PPC code. Also, search processes are threaded, so users will be able to perform many searches simultaneously. Publish & Subscribe Tips ------------------------ [A few issues ago, I asked if Publish & Subscribe were of any use at all, since I had never met anybody who used them. Here are some well-thought-out replies. I'm re-posting rather a lot more replies than I normally do, hoping that the ideas will "click" with many more people out there.] By doe@mmk.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Christian Doenges) I use publish & subscribe on a regular basis for two things mainly: 1) When using spreadsheets, I often publish the results of a monthly report and subscribe it in a yearly report. This way, as my monthly data changes, the yearly data is updated automatically. 2) When working on documents with several contributors on our in-house-LAN we create one document which contains all the parts done by different people as subscribers. When somebody makes a change, the whole document is updated automatically. I do have one gripe, however: I would like to be able to edit subscribed material. The way I imagine it, double-clicking on the subscribed data would open the application that created it and let me make (local) changes. That does sound somewhat like what OpenDoc promises for the day after tomorrow :) --------- By gscarich@kaiwan.com (Greg) Too much trouble and takes up extra disk space. One has to publish, then subscribe and keep track of changes if one renames etc. etc. FrameMaker has "import by reference" which accomplishes some of the Publish and Subscribe and is about as complicated as I want to get. Unfortunately only a few formats are supported (PICT, eps and text, more or less). And the whole document is imported, unlike selected parts possible with P&S, But then one has to keep track of which parts are Published in P&S. By it's name "import by reference" one can infer that the imported document isn't added to the existing document, only imported for viewing and printing--only the reference is saved. I've never run into any one using P&S, although it's not something I bring up with friends or at parties. I would imagine in a very structured environment P&S could be useful, but many people don't trust P&S type things. Whatever is printing or shown, they want with the document, so it will be there next time. In a networked office environment with other people using your computer, finding a file is tough enough without having to have links to worry about. -------- By James Nunn I have a very good (and time saving) use for Publish & Subscribe! I record detailed expenditure details into a fairly large workbook (Excel) [worksheet 1]. Details within this workbook, are linked to another worksheet [worksheet 2] which provides a summary of the expenditure outlined (eg. Computer expenditure, Incidental Expenditure). This worksheet has the various parts of it "published" and saved onto a file server. Next the word document [document 1] comes along which outlines the monthly expenditure for the office in a detailed written report. In the relevant parts of the report I have subscribed to the published material and inserted the relevant parts from worksheet 2. Why not just paste a link, I hear you ask? The same data contained in worksheet 2, is also subscribed by the Systems area for their report on computer and related expenditure, it is also subscribed by the Training area for their report and related expenditure. Each month when I have updated the monthly expenditure and save worksheet 2, which in effect re-publishes the information, each area opens their word document and updates their document, which they then write updated information in their report. All areas use the same figures, and the amount of paper that is being passed around the office has substantially reduced! As time goes by, and I find the time, other reports (eg statistics, other financial reports) will receive the same treatment. A real time saver!!! -------- By M Raghuraman What do I use it for? Mainly to import (scientific) graphs into Canvas. What I (and a few other people where I work) do is to make graphs in programs like KaleidaGraph or SigmaPlot, then transfer the graph to Canvas and add other graphics/text to make slides or figures for publication. We find that if we've done any kind of curve-fitting on the graphs, we can't get a smooth printout of the curve fits if we copy/paste the graphs into Canvas (or any other drawing program)--the curves look like wiggly lines on the printout. We get similar results if we Export as PICT files from the graphing program and import the PICT file into Canvas. In SigmaPlot, exporting the graph as an EPS file and importing it into Canvas gives good results. However, SigmaPlot is such a dreadful program, we avoid it when possible. So what we've settled on is to use KaleidaGraph to make the graphs, then use Publish and Subscribe (Publishing as PostScript) to get the graphs into Canvas. That works beautifully, and has the added advantage that if we want to add more curves or data points or whatever at a later time, updating the Canvas file is a snap. Two unrelated items: - You'd talked about optimizing hard drives/unfragmenting files in a recent issue. A couple of weeks ago, I had the pleasant experience of running Apple's Disk First Aid followed by MacTools Optimizer (or whatever it's called) on a Mac IIci at work. It started off with 50 Mb free space; after the process it miraculously had 97 Mb of free space! Unfortunately, I didn't check the drive after running Disk First Aid (which did report some problems and did some repairs), so I don't know whether it was DFA or MacTools that recovered all that space. - I just installed a great piece of shareware (freeware, actually) on my Mac--it's called TitlePop, and it's by Jouko Pakkanen. It's a system extension that adds a popup menu to window titlebars. The menu lists the current app's windows (including folders open in the Finder) and all other running apps, with _their_ windows in submenus, so navigation between particular windows in different apps is easy. (So far, I haven't had any conflicts with anything, and I do have other navigation tools--such as PopUpFolder--installed.) I hope Apple adopts this piece of software--it's such an easy way of navigating windows, unified across apps. (I know there's other software that'll do similar things, but for some reason I find this one particularly elegant. And the price can't be beaten!) Oh, yes--I got TitlePop from the Info-Mac archives. info-mac/gui/title-pop-23.hqx -------- By mlilback@cais.cais.com (Mark J. Lilback) I've found some great uses for Publish and Subscribe. Here's one of my better/more popular ones. I've set up a set of Filemaker databases for tracking magazine sales through newsstands and newsstand distributors. The databases are pretty complex, and very heavily scripted. There is one layout with about 30 buttons for various reports that can be generated. This is where publish and subscribe come in. When a report button is clicked, Filemaker exports the data as an edition. Excel is then launched through apple events, and then opens a graph/chart that subscribes to the files exported by Filemaker. I found this process to be much faster than having Excel re-import the data every time an updated graph or chart was wanted. For up-to-date graphs, all the user has to do is have Excel check to make sure the data is current. Most of the places I've sold it to have very low-end machines, and Excel is a real processor hog. This solution lets them get the nice graphs Excel allows, while getting faster processing/data entry as all the real work is done in Filemaker. -------- By ROHDESIGN@aol.com I use the publish and subscribe feature pretty often with Quark Xpress when I know that I will be updating graphics a lot. Basically, I set up my file in Quark the way I want and double-click (in the hand tool) the appropriate graphic box(s) that I want to auto-update. When the P+S box pops up, I then click the 'automatic update' feature, and then whenever I make changes, the graphic auto-updates. This is especially nice in Quark, since if a bunch of files have been updated when you want to print or collect for output, you might spend 15+ minutes finding updated/missing files and then waiting for those crazy files to update in Quark's 'picture usage' box. Another nice feature about P+S is that if I want to change a file, I can double-click the appropriate graphic box(s) and when the P+S box pops up, I can then click the button labeled 'open publisher' which then brings the file up in the appropriate application (like Illustrator or Photoshop). This allows me to edit the file, save it, and it then automatically updates in the picture window (if I have selected the auto-update function) saving me the trouble of opening the software and finding the appropriate file. I find that it is really useful for me, and I use it all the time. -------- By RSOULIER@cc.usu.edu (Ryan Soulier) I work as a Data Analyst for a research firm. I produce hundreds of charts from DeltaGraph 3.1. I also typset numerous reports, and produce slides for presentations. I love publish and subscribe. My boss is kind of picky about seeing everything just like he likes it. I use publish and subscribe to place my Deltagraph charts into Word 5.1. It works great. Then if there is a mislabeled axis, I don't have to refind the file that produced it (it's usually with the experiment data, not the report), export it, re-import it. All I do is select subscribe options, and open original. It finds the publisher for me, and allows quick changes. It also works great for my slides. I may produce a color chart for a slide, then after I get it in Powerpoint, I may not like the colors I used with my slide background. Just open original (probably the same file I used for the report) and voila! Change completed. I look forward to OpenDoc and hope it works this easy. Eudora 2.1's Filtering Capability --------------------------------- [I recently mentioned that I manually transferred my zillions of e-mail messages into appropriate folders as soon as I received them, using Eudora 2.03. Many folks have urged me to upgrade to version 2.1.] By petersse@sce.com (Scott Peterson) I use filtering as the most persuasive argument for moving to commercial Eudora. A neat feature missing from the freeware Eudora is Filtering. With filtering, you can automate the sorting of Mail messages by auto-transferring mail to specific mailboxes, assign labels to certain mails and raising/lowering the priority of the mail, or even changing the subject of the e-mail (I think filtering works on 2.0.x, but I am sure about 2.1.x). To create a new filter, select Filters from the Window menu, click on 'New'. Give it a descriptive name. The right side of the window will become active. The first line is a set of three check-boxes: Incoming, Outgoing & Manual. Select the type of message you want to filter (You can select more than one). The next field is 'Header:' and presents a pull-down list of: To:,From:,Subject:,Cc:,Reply-To:,<>,<>. Any header will search all of the headers for a match, Body will search the body for a match. Suppose you want to create filter based on subject, so select subject. The next field is where you match the header. The default is 'contains', other choices are: 'doesn't contain', 'is', 'is not', 'starts with', 'ends with', 'appears', 'does not appear', & 'intersects nickname'. The last three are a bit confusing, the rest are self-explanatory. If a message does (or does not) contain the header, then the 'appears' or 'does not appear' filter will be activated. 'intersects nickname' is a fancy way of saying that filter will activate if any of the headers contain the nickname specified in the field. You can also create a conjunction filter using the next field. The default is 'ignore', but you can also choose 'and', 'or', or 'unless', and specify another text string to be checked for match. So what happens if there is a match? You can specify a new subject in the 'Make Subject' field, change the label of the message (default is none. You can change the label colors and names through the Labels control panel). Use the next two radio buttons to either raise or lower the priority of the messages. And here's my favorite: Click on the big button labeled 'Transfer to:' and select a mailbox from the transfer menu (Create on if necessary to go with the filter). In my case, I have a Mailbox named Mac*Chat. The filter is: Incoming, Header: From:,Contains Mac*Chat, Transfer to: Mac*Chat. For lot of other stuff that I don't want to read but that gets to me anyway, I transfer them to Trash. Legalisms --------- Copyright 1989-1995 Tony Lindsey. Nonprofit groups (such as Mac User Groups) or other non-commercial publications) are welcome to use any part of the Mac*Chat newsletters if full credit is given. All others will need to contact me. This newsletter is intended purely as entertainment and free information. No profit has been made from any of these opinions. Time passes, so accuracy may diminish. Publication, product, and company names may be registered trademarks of their companies. This file is formatted as setext, which can be read on any text reader. 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